secondly, we don't have kidnapping for ransom in the united states. it was mentioned by the husband in this that it sounded like a bad movie plot. well, it is a very bad movie plot. notwithstanding hollywood, these things don't happen. the last time there was a fake ransom like that was in the jonbenet case, another long, rambling note which we know was fake because the little girl was dead in her -- in the basement. now, the real concern here, though, for people in my industry is the whole idea of faking kidnappings. what that does is it creates cry wolf scenarios so that the next time something like that happens there's a cynicism on the part of the public, or very well could be a cynicism on the part of the public about whether or not -- >> i agree. >> -- that kidnapping is an actual kidnapping or not. not to mention the resources that are taken away from legitimate situations. >> back to the lawyers. eleanor odom, peter odom, tamara holder. peter odom, what about her telling the cops? and this is obviously a voluntary statement. "i tried to make t